Talking Points #10

Empowering Education: Critical Teaching for Social Change by Ira Shor

1.)"Students come of age in a society where average people do not participate in governance, in framing major purposes, in making policy, or in having a strong voice in media and puhlic affairs"

- This is talking about the type of non questioning, non participating society that kids are growing up in. This lack of involvement and critical analysis/questioning of society and what is going on in the world is directly related to the type of majority education that is going on in schools. The lack of participation and critical thinking of why, how, and how can it change in school rolls over into the real world.

2.) "For example, it's very important to begin the school year with a discussion of why we to to school. Why does the government force us to go to school? This would set a questioning tone and show the children that you trust them and that they are intelligent enough, at their own level, to investigate and come up with answers"

- I love this quote and actually think I'm going to use this idea when I start teaching. I want my classroom to be one in which kids are questioning why and not just taking down notes like machines because they are told to. I feel this way because of my experiences in school where I felt like not too many teachers encouraged a questioning and critical thinking atmosphere.

3.) "Empowering knowledge is sought by questioning rules, work relations, and daily episodes often

taken for granted"

- This quote comes from the problem posing section in Shor's piece. He's saying that empowering knowledge comes from a problem posing style of education in which the students and teacher work together in a form of critical questioning and thinking examining society and everyday actions through regular curriculum material.

Thoughts: Overall, I thought this piece was the most difficult to read and follow of any of them. Because of its length, I split the reading up into a couple different sessions, which probably made me understand the big picture a little less. A few points really came across to me, though. Like from my first quote, I saw the lack of participation in society and government from ordinary people in society, and saying that it comes from the lack of critical inquiry and participation in school is directly related really made me see how that could be true. Mainly, though, I think Shor called for a sort of school environment that was more a so called problem posing one rather than a banking one in which students and teachers worked more together, rather than teachers feeding students information machine-like. All in all, I agreed with what I could understand with the article and will take some of the ideas into my own classroom someday.

- The link on Ira Shor is a video, but I couldn't post it as one for some reason.

Talking Points #9

Christopher Kliewer: Citizenship in School: Reconceptualizing Down Syndrome

1.) "Democracy can only occur when no person's voice is deterministically silenced"

- Teaching in the society we are in, we must do our best to include every voice and individual student and let each individual develop to become a helping member of the community. Inclusion of voices speaks of the very essence of a democratic society.

2.)"Professional reliance on a narrow interpretation of mathematical and linguistic characteristics when defining school citizenship in no way captures the multiplicity of knowledges valued in the wider community"

- This quote is just saying that the way intelligence and competence is defined in schooling today doesn't truly measure one's ability to apply themselves in the real world society. One could be great at math and english standardized testing but can't apply it in the community another person who isn't as "smart".

3.) "[Community] requires a willingness to see people as they are-different perhaps in their minds and in their bodies, but not different in their spirits or in their willingness and ability to contribute to the mosaic of society. It requires the "helper" to have the humility to listen for what hat the person says he or she needs. Also, the "helper" must see that the interaction "helps" both ways."

- I loved this quote. It is basically saying that we need to embrace differences and realize that these differences do not segregate is in our ability to contribute to the school society and the society at large.

Thoughts:

Reading this article by Kliewer was sort of difficult because of its lengthiness and somewhat boring parts. However, the main points and little stories and examples were quite interesting and good to read. I really liked the way Shayne talked about her students and atmosphere she created in her classroom. It kind of reiterated some points from previous articles, like the fact that all voices should be involved in the classroom. We should see differences in students, like those with down syndrome, but not separate students because of them.

Here is a youtube video that goes along with this week's article:

Talking Points #8

Jean Anyon: Social Class and the Hidden Curriculum of Work

1.) "At this point a girl said that she had a faster way to do it and the teacher said, 'No, you don't; you don't even know what I'm making yet. Do it this way or it's wrong.'"

- This is an example from the working class school and how everything they do is clear cut with no individual thought or analyzation accepted from the students. Their creativity is halted by the "do it this way or it's wrong" method.

2.) "While the teachers spend a lot of time explaining and expanding on what the textbooks say, there is little attempt to analyze how or why things happen, or to give thought to how pieces of a culture, or, say, a system of numbers or elements of a language fit together or can be analyzed"

- This one talks about the middle class schools and is something I can really relate to. Kids are being taught how to do different types of problems, write different types of sentences, ect, but they aren't taught to analyze how or why things are happening. They aren't taught to think outside what they are expected to answer.

3.) "In the affluent professional school, work is creative activity carried out independently. The students are continually asked to express and apply ideas and concepts. Work involves individual thought and expressiveness, expansion and illustration of ideas, and choice of appropriate method and material. "

- This is where Anyon is talking about the rich schools and how they have a different style of teaching method. They allow the kids to think for themselves and develop their creative ideas and thoughts. This is one thing that I think really good teachers do.

Thoughts:

I enjoyed reading this article and thought it was one of the readings that I really could relate to. The points that Anyon made were very interesting and she used great examples in the different schools to explain her points. What she was talking about really hit home with me. I've always felt the teachers that have been the best teachers for me are the ones that let me think for myself creatively and independently the most. Like the schools of the lower and middle classes, Anyon says that there is a lack of independence and creativity in the kids where the teaching is so straightforward and clear cut. I think that in middle and high school my teachers were very clear cut and didn't encourage me to think outside the box and question why and how. I still don't think many of my teachers here at RIC get me to do that, to go beyond the individual problems.

Talking Points #7

Gender and Education

After reading a few articles online, I was sort of surprised at the points the authors of the articles were making. They were saying that women were not getting equal treatment and most importantly attention in middle to high school levels. The author said that the effects of the lack of attention given to girls could be a lack of confidence and self esteem. That really made sense to me. It then made me think about my own experiences in high school and reflect to see if I saw any of the points made in the articles. In my own experiences, I didn't really see real signs of this inequality in my classrooms in high school and college. I see a lot of girls that are very active participants in class, and I think, even more active and challenging themselves more than the boys. Also, in my research, I learned that because of girls not challenging themselves, less girls higher level math and science classes and technology classes than boys. However, in my high school AP calculus class, there were more girls than boys in my class. And in my math classes here at RIC(I'm a math major), I would say on average there is about the same amount of women as men in the class. Because of what I see, I kind of disagree with the points that are being made, but then again, I haven't done deep research like the experts on gender and education.

Here are a few links I used to research:

http://www.edchange.org/multicultural/papers/genderbias.html

http://education.illinois.edu/wp/access/gender.html

Talking Points #6

Tim Wise: Between Barack and a Hard Place

Doing a video blog was much more interesting than doing the other readings we have done. I definitely feel like I could follow his points and ideas, and I think it helped just hearing the tone of voice he was using. Like many of the other pieces we have been discussing in class, Wise was very adamant about the fact that we have a long long way to go in regards to racism and equality in this country. Wise states in the interview,"The proof of racial equity will be the day that people of color can be as mediocre as white people and still get hired". I absolutely loved this quote. He said this in response to the notion of people that think that because we see greatness in colored people like Barack Obama, the racism problems in this country are solved. But Obama is an extreme example and special exception because of his incredible intelligence and clean cut style. Wise wants us to strive for the day that colored people who offer different "styles" and who are "mediocre" can be accepted and successful in mainstream America.

How Wise's discussion and the famous case of Brown v Board of Education relate is somewhat obvious, but I think deeper with some analyzation. Brown v Board overturned segregation in schools and made the conjecture of "separate but not equal". This was obviously a huge step in the fight for equality in the United States. Wise is also pushing for equality, and I think he sort of talks about the "separate but not equal" idea in his discussion in a round-a-bout way. He talks about the fact that some people of color that are every bit intelligent as white people( but in a different way), but don't get a chance to give what they have to offer. So what people of color who are equally intelligent as white people have as opportunities are way less than those of white people. What they have to offer may be different, but it should be thought of as equal. However, it is not, and it goes back to the whole separate but not equal notion. Wise is pushing for the same thing Brown was, and many others throughout history pushing for true equality.

Talking Points #5

In The Service Of What?

The Politics of Service Learning

By Joseph Kahne and Joel Westheimer

1.) "Moreover, when asked what they gained from the experience, many students said simply that it

taught them "that people can be different" from what you expect. Others arrived at a variety of deeper insights: '[The neighborhood] isn't as bad as the news makes it out to be.'"

- I chose this quote because I can definitely relate to it in my experiences thus far in service learning. Going in, I believed the kids/teachers would behave badly and wildly because of the conditions that they are in. My expectations were way off and the kids couldn't be better behaved.

2.) "Clearly. having students share their thoughts and experiences with one another can be valuable, but reflective activities (commonly in the form of journal entries and discussions) may simply reinforce

previously held beliefs and simplistic, if generous, conclusions."

- I thought this quote was quite interesting, and I'm sort of on the fence on whether I agree with it or not. With the journals I have written for my service learning, I think I am doing more than reinforcing previously held notions. I think I it is helping me realize things that I seeing in the classroom.

3.) "Rather than assume, erroneously, that all educators share the same vision, we think it is better to be explicit about the numerous and different visions that drive the creation and implementation of service

learning activities in schools."

- I chose this quote because it simplifies the whole article. Not all educators have the same motives about what they are trying to do in schools, and it is important to examine the different reasons that make for service learning in schools.

Thoughts: This article was a pretty easy read, probably because I read it on the plane ride back from Florida. All in all though, I thought it was sort of interesting, but I think the ideas that the authors were driving at were somewhat obvious to see. The two different cases of service learning that were shown showed that there are different reasons and objectives for different types of service learning. The one where the kid packed health packs for the homeless and delivered them had a different effect on the kid than if the kid had more one on one interaction with people. The article did make me think a little bit about my own service learning with VIPS, and it did make me think of how exactly it was affecting me.

Talking Points #4

Linda Christensen: Unlearning Myths That Bind Us

1.) "We are not only taught certain styles of violence, the latest fashions, and sex roles by TV, movies, magazines, and comic strips: we are also taught how to succeed, how to love, how to buy, how to conquer, how to forger rhe past and suppress the future. We are taught, more than anything else, how not to rebel"

- This is a quote from Dorfman talking about all the underlying messages and lessons cartoons are teaching young children. Most importantly, however, Dorfman says that they mold children to conform to society and not stand up to the injustices in the world. Basically, to not think for themselves.

2.) "There should be more women of color who play the leads in these white-on-white wedding cake tales. Of course, there should also be more women of color on the Supreme Court, in Congress, and scrubbing up for surgeries."

- I liked this quote because it kind of connects the problems in such a small area(cartoons) with the big picture of injustice. The injustice shown in cartoons is directly related to the real life injustice that exists in society.

3.) "Instead of leaving students full of bile, standing around wirh their hands on their hips, shaking their

heads about how bad the world is, I provided them the opportunity to make a difference."

- I really liked this last quote at the end of the article. Christensen is teaching her students here that acknowledging the problems and injustices is not enough. Sitting there ashamed of the world and cynical won't do any good. So she gave the a chance to take the next step make change for the better.

Thoughts:

Overall, I thought this piece was a very quick and easy read, also very good. All of the points that Christensen brought up were very intriguing and things that I really had never thought of before. The way young children think is molded by everything they see, and therefore, cartoons, magazines,and tv play vital roles in how children think of society. Therefore, the injustices and underlying messages in media and ''industrial fiction'' are engrained in the minds of kids at a young age. Thinking back on my younger days, the cartoons and things I watched on TV are outrageously racist, sexist, and stereotypical. This article and the analyzation of such cartoons and media messages is really going to make me think twice when I read, and especially when I watch things on TV.